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    Got the Bentra firing on all 4 again. Bad injector harness.

    Now to solve the PS leak and whatever pulley is making so much noise @ startup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toka100 View Post
    It is a common thing with S series. I think it is combination of the lock cylinder and the key itself.

    Its kinda useful but could be bad also. I have had one single key be able to start 3 different s-series cars that all had the same issue.
    That is why for almost 10 years the 95 SL was the most stolen vehicle in America.
    72 Charger: pissed me off, on jackstands.
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    Pulled engine out of auto turd last night. Will swap timing covers and remove torque converter from it. So seized that I can't rotate the bolts in place to remove it.
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    Smoke wrench them?
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    I got my misfire firgured out....some ass-hat had a vacuum line pinched in the back of the intake manifold causing a vac leak to the #5 cylinder.

    New plugs and a new compression tester later I finally figured it out.
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    Firmed up a parts list to order for my clutch replacement to be posted elsewhere (shortly) for input
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    I need a little room to breathe
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    Shut up when I'm talking to you
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    Havent posted in awhile but always lurking. Managed to get a coat of wax on her in the plus 10c weather we were having up here. I ordered a few parts. My rotors warped very quickly last year after I did the brakes. I opted for some zinc plated slotted and crossdrilled ones in hopes it will help. Always kinda liked the amr strut brace so I gave in and ordered one of those as well.
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    Cross drilled will warp faster since there is less mass to absorb heat.
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    Twenty years ago, I drove my brand new Black Gold Metallic 1997 Saturn SC2 off the lot in Madison WI.

    This morning, I was daydreaming and tried to pull into the neighbor's driveway, as their house has the exact same layout right down to the color of the garage door.
    Instead of turning around and driving up to my driveway, I decided I'd back up instead.

    I was a bit too close to the curb and going backward faster than I thought, apparently, b c the edge of my mailbox caught the corner of my rear glass and shattered it.
    Yet another reason my nickname is Derf (Fred backwards)

    Should be a fun journey to replace. Oh, and I have an interview Thurs AM.

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    I hate doing stuff like that -- had a few regrettable incidents myself. I'm guessing JY is probably the best source. Rock Auto has glass for wagons and sedans, but coupes of all years seem to be sadly missing from their list.
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    Quote Originally Posted by S.Bretz View Post
    Cross drilled will warp faster since there is less mass to absorb heat.
    And buildup of pad material changes the structure of the metal, making for regions of the disk's swept area that are harder than the rest. I think centric has a paper on this. Letting the brakes cool as much as possible before parking might help. I think we've all been there in one way or another.
    93 SW1, 95 SW2, 98 SW2, 97 SW1 -- all stick. Wagon hoarder.

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    19/20 times I hear about brake warpage, its a bedding issue.

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    These guys will confirm what you said: http://www.stoptech.com/technical-su...nd-other-myths

    Put a dial indicator on it and the runout will make you think warpage... but mic it in different places and you'll see that the thickness is varying. This has been my experience and the notion of the material being deposited makes sense. Apparently can form hard carbides. Not saying that warping is impossible, but in my case every time it points to deposition or different hardness (and hence, uneven wear).

    At least rotors are fairly inexpensive.

    Edit: I'm a big fan of slotted in the wet, initial grab is definitely better after a long period of not using the brakes or having gone through a big puddle. Drilled might make sense where unsprung weight is everything, but guys I know who track their cars complain of cracks appearing, not a big issue as they're spending more on brakes every day on the track than I spend in years. Sorry, don't mean to introduce topic drift.
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    [QUOTE=S.Bretz;1526865]Cross drilled will warp faster since there is less mass to absorb heat.[/QUOTE

    Interesting. Ya I was surprised how quickly they warped. It's not like I was hard on them either. I have a nice easy commute and I take it pretty easy on the car. Just figured having a better quality rotor might help with stopping.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldassz View Post
    I have a nice easy commute and I take it pretty easy on the car.
    Be hard on it when you bed them. Then you can baby it and it will be fine.

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    Took the '93 SOHC to its last required emissions test today. Kid testing it seemed to be very interested in the Direzzas and Sparco Trofeos. After the test he came out with the report and said "Now you can put a V8 in it!" I told him a turbo twin-cam will be in the works.

    Numbers weren't bad for a car with 250k on the clock:
    HC 51ppm (fail is 158 ppm)
    CO 0.04% (fail is 0.84%)
    NOx 36 ppm (fail is 1842 ppm)

    (a two year old Eastern cat probably didn't hurt here)
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    Quote Originally Posted by ProDarwin View Post
    Be hard on it when you bed them. Then you can baby it and it will be fine.
    Will do!
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    Took the luv out for a long drive. At least for it a long drive. About 50 miles on some muddy roads. There happened to be an old jy that I learned about so I went to look. It had mostly older trucks. Mostly 90s and older all the way back to a few pre-war. There was about 100 trucks there but the only thing that really grabbed my attention was this.




    An 12 door international travel-all. The body was fairly straight but the chassis is junk. Both axles were complely sunk into the ground. It was storing a bunch of v8 blocks in the back too.

    One of the neighbors want to get some pictures of their old truck before it was sold. They are both in the 90s and they bought this 51 Chevy 3600 brand new in 52. They kept saying the only paid $1400 for it at the time. The truck is all original with 32k on it. Really nice considering the age of it.

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    94 sl2. (Vader) . turbocharged. In storage rotting away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toka100 View Post
    An 12 door international travel-all.
    An airport limo I guess? Really interesting, especially seeing this in the middle of a prairie. Nothing like that here. (Truck or grassland)
    Quote Originally Posted by toka100 View Post
    One of the neighbors want to get some pictures of their old truck before it was sold.
    I hope whoever buys it preserves it as-is. That is a nice piece of history.
    Nice shots.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 85HP View Post
    An airport limo I guess? Really interesting, especially seeing this in the middle of a prairie. Nothing like that here. .
    This area has a lot of odd cars stored away. I know of an old high school gym that has a lambo lm2000 and a old Ferrari. Don't remember which one it was but the prancing horse is all I remember on that one. There were also a bunch of triumphs and MG's along with a few mustle cars. About 10 years back I found a 72 Buick Riviera (boattail) stored away in a grain bin. It really looked like they built the bin around the car. Now both the bin and car are gone.
    94 sw2. (Boda Fett) . Secret ultimate daily driver build in the works.

    94 sl2. (Vader) . turbocharged. In storage rotting away.

    79 Chevy Luv. (Stormtrooper) . Winter/ bad weather daily driver. Work in process

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