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Frostman
08-06-2013, 08:24 PM
Well I have been pretty busy with work, life, living and well... maybe going to bit full retard... I have been posting over on Saturnfans so I will be clipping pieces here and there...

Original Post:

http://www.saturnfans.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1999479#post1999479


For the passed year I have been looking at suspension options for the L-Series and well, I think I won...


http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac338/Frostman182/Phone%20Shots/IMG_20130524_203506.jpg
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac338/Frostman182/Phone%20Shots/IMG_20130524_171529.jpg
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac338/Frostman182/Phone%20Shots/IMG_20130524_171542.jpg[/QUOTE]



And to clear up, the coil overs are for a Opel Vectra B (4 cly) There are V6 options as well and I can only assume they have a stiffer spring in them. They are FK High-Sport Coilovers.

http://www.europerformance.co.uk/pages/products/product_info.mhtml?product=239393

The sway bars are for a SAAB 9-5 Turbo.

http://www.sasab.com/saab-9-5/9-5-front-and-rear-sway-bar-kit

And since I'm posting stuff this is something I will consider too as I have this issue. Maybe not after I put the new springs in but a good idea :)

http://www.cobaltss.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5005



However, the front struts are a no biggie. You can use the bearings that come pressed in the top of the stock mounts, however, they need to be carefully cut out.

http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac338/Frostman182/Phone%20Shots/IMG_20130707_153216.jpg

Also, with the strut mount you need to remove the stock coil seat... They are either screwed in or the plastic has been melted to hold it... drill it out...

http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac338/Frostman182/Phone%20Shots/IMG_20130524_203354.jpg

It fits perfect! This bearing was the stock on in my dads car. I tore apart his old mounts. The bearings actually are in good shape.

http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac338/Frostman182/Phone%20Shots/IMG_20130707_153253.jpg

http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac338/Frostman182/Phone%20Shots/IMG_20130707_153305.jpg

Like a glove!

http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac338/Frostman182/Phone%20Shots/IMG_20130707_153317.jpg

Now I am sure you are asking, why can't you just buy the bearing separate? Well, if you want to buy them a case of 100 at a time from Germany, well good on yah! These bearings are special order for individual units or mass purchase. You can get them from the UK for 10 pounds plus shipping a piece. They are also listed for GM and you guessed it, Opel lol So it looks like I am bang on for fitment with the coil overs.

The top rubber mount that sits in the top of the housing on the car can also be bought separately through rock auto(for the opel vectra b). It's actually the only part that fails really. As I said before the bearing it self was still in great shape. But if anyone else decided to follow this route, buy the cheap front mount kits, cut the bearing out and assemble. It's really that easy on the front.

The rears are straight forward, no messing around needed :)

A week later....


Well the results are in! Coil overs are drop in affair as shown above :)

Sway bars are a different story. The rears require modifying the stock end links. I have yet to determine what to do with these yet, however the uni ball spherical threaded bearings are doing the trick right now. The front I couldn't get in. And for you manual trans guys out there, you don't need to drop the sub frame/engine cradle to get the bar out either. With the down pipe being out of the way it's easy to slip across. The new bar bends too early and won't sit where the frame mount is supposed to be. I'm going to make a custom mount as everything else lines up perfect aside from the mount.

I don't have a final drop picture as I have to balance the height front-rear and left-right. The rear end is all the way up on the threads and sits above stock height. The front has a slight drop, but not enough to someone not used to seeing it. I also noticed today that for some reason, even though I matched the height before install, that the right is higher than the left. So I have to recheck the shock tower mounting positions. Adjusting the coils to height will unload the springs at different rates. I don't want this and will avoid as much as possible.


As for ride, it's stiff that's for sure. Bumps hit harder and you feel more road imperfections. As for ramps and highway... dear god it's so damn sweet! Drove home this morning after work and it will be a whole new learning curve to find the edge again. It's crazy! I'm going to let everything settle for a little bit before I make anymore changes. I don't want to set it and have to do it again. I didn't install the adjustable lower control arms as I ran out of time and not worried about frying my tires. I have one more season after this so I have some time to dial it in properly. Also, once I unload the springs a bit and get the height down, I'm sure the ride will let up a bit. But as of right now, the rear is way too stiff. Also, the rear sway bar is so stiff that when all the wheels are on the ground and I jack up the front right or left side of the car, the other side will eventually come up... who needs body roll anyways? LOL

So here are some pictures :)

Rear Sway Bars
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac338/Frostman182/IMG_20130802_134124.jpg

Front Sway Bars

You can see where the first bend is too early...

http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac338/Frostman182/IMG_20130804_165914.jpg

Assembled
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac338/Frostman182/IMG_20130804_144241.jpg

Installed
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac338/Frostman182/IMG_20130804_153903.jpg

http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac338/Frostman182/IMG_20130804_153842.jpg

This clip is not on the coil overs for the ABS sensor... I can live with how it ended up...

http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac338/Frostman182/IMG_20130804_172601.jpg

Will have to figure out how to move this over...
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac338/Frostman182/IMG_20130804_172614.jpg

Yah it's rusty... I live in Canada lol

http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac338/Frostman182/IMG_20130804_174135.jpg

http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac338/Frostman182/IMG_20130804_174126.jpg

Just a bit tight....

http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac338/Frostman182/IMG_20130804_182106a.jpg


I will get a before and after shot once I get the height set up... Right now it just doesn't look right lol I found some shots when I first got the car compared to now so it will be neat to see :)

Hope this was helpful and any questions feel free to ask :)

All photos taken with Google Nexus :)

Nick

bsweitzer99
08-06-2013, 08:30 PM
That's pretty awesome! Almost makes me want an L!

stevejr47
08-06-2013, 08:35 PM
There is a god

Dumpt98
08-06-2013, 08:36 PM
Good info!

Plastic Fury
08-06-2013, 09:04 PM
Oh man, so in for pics. Definitely want to see a properly slammed L-wagon.

I feel bad for you guys and all that rust, WOW!

andrew88
08-06-2013, 10:13 PM
Oh dang you have been busy. You still need to drive with amrs... looks like we can have a little fun now on the escarpment

PlastikAvenger
08-06-2013, 10:56 PM
FK highsports are a great coilover too. I know many people that run the different levels of FKs and everyone is happy with them.

Good shit.

stevejr47
08-07-2013, 05:43 AM
FK highsports are a great coilover too. I know many people that run the different levels of FKs and everyone is happy with them.

Good shit.

This makes me feel even better now.

slipstreamconversion
08-07-2013, 01:38 PM
Hmmm....

dynonacht
08-07-2013, 02:00 PM
Hmmm....

Do it.

stevejr47
08-07-2013, 02:29 PM
Do it.

This.

Frostman
08-07-2013, 04:33 PM
LOL I knew this board would appreciate this type of work/retard the most lol

Steve, you know you need to do this, we talked a long time ago trying to figure this out :)

Andrew, I still want to take that car for a rip. These coil overs are nice, however, they are no where near close to AMR's. I wish the FK's had separate spring rate and height level control. Never mind the dampening adjustment. Although, there are higher versions of these coil overs that do have this. I was taking a gamble ordering these despite the research that was done to see if it was even possible.

To the other L owners, I'm sorry that I may have ruined your pocket books in the future, but this needed to be done :)


UPDATE:

Things are still rough, I won't be making a height adjustment until next week. The rear end links that I made with spherical uniball bearings sound like they are already done... So I took off the old ones and going to have the sleeves that came with the stock bars and have them pressed in and use stock end links. I don't want to ruin the new ones I bought until I make sure 100% that they are the ones making the popping noise I hear and feel.

Photo

http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac338/Frostman182/IMG_20130802_153806-1.jpg


They were slightly "clinky" when I put them in, so with how tight that bar is, I'm not surprised they are done... I just didn't think they would die this quickly. That or stupid put the bar in upside down... I have done dumber things LOL

Other than that, for the boys looking for coil overs, the site I posted did well for me. I have seen some ebay sites include the bearing already so if so that's a bonus, but you still need the black bushing cap. So order up the cheap kit's and not the "Super Kit" Fucking things are really expensive...

Thanks for the feed back guys! Has been a long hall to get some $$$ together after a long hard personal battle with a friend and money...

However, lets get low! :) And anyone else that gets going on this, please post pictures of what you used and how it all went. I never have wrote a build page or "How to" and it was fun even doing the write up. And like with all things, you pay for what you get... stay away from "Race Land" coil overs, I know they are cheap, but you'll be disappointed. I also tried looking at standard "drop springs" and haven't come up with anything conclusive... if anyone wants to dabble into that, I'm all ears on that too as there is only, to my knowledge, only one company around now that has L-series drop springs and they are for the V6 IIRC.

stevejr47
08-07-2013, 05:20 PM
I had/have progress springs (which were rare as shit) but there wasnt much of a drop haha, so I wouldnt even bother, they are probably impossible to find anyway.

lilcraigford
08-08-2013, 05:48 PM
Always awesome to see a breakthrough anywhere in the Saturn community. Props to the helm to sort out a solution for the L-Series guys!

slipstreamconversion
08-08-2013, 06:09 PM
I will definitely look into this in the winter. Right now just focusing on getting the L running then will look into this and rims for it! Definitely gonna check out those links lol

ZombieSatty
08-09-2013, 01:58 PM
Hmm, a dumped L series you say? The SL is getting a bit long in the tooth.

Can't wait to see the rear Tire wear.

Frostman
08-09-2013, 10:47 PM
I have adjustable lower control arms that haven't been installed yet. But as it stands with the added height toe in is too much. Like I said I have one more season left on that rubber so I have the rest of the summer to dial it in.

Plastic Fury
08-09-2013, 11:33 PM
Slammed pics, let's go lol!!!

dynonacht
08-10-2013, 12:15 AM
Slammed pics, let's go lol!!!

Seconded

Frostman
08-12-2013, 02:51 PM
Got the rear end down to just under stock height. However, went to take the left rear tire off and the lower outer control arm bushing is completely gone. And it's been going for a while. At least six months I have been trying to track down the knocking and I guess I fucked around with it enough to make it break. Pictures still to come yet, haven't had a decent spot to take it and it's filthy and I can't have that.

So the hunt for bushings is under way... they are not cheap... rockauto has them for 60 bucks which means they can be any where from 70-100 a piece up here. They are some oil filled bushing that I have never seen before and I guess while I'm at it I mind as well do the rear breaks as the back one is dragging the e brake pads. And my exhaust is falling apart.. fuck my life!

Sorry had to rant. I figured after spending nearly $2000 on this, she would be happy that I put some care into her, but no she had to be a defiant little bitch hating everything that I do to her that wasn't supposed to be done.

Just keep telling my self, in time, all good things come!

stevejr47
08-16-2013, 10:47 AM
These bad boys are now 413 pounds = $645 glad I didn't buy them yet!

Natedogg
08-16-2013, 10:56 AM
Try to find an Energy replacement that will fit. Fuck those oil filled bushings. My IS300 had them on the rear subframe-chassis mounts and they always leak and destroy themselves.

bbarbulo
08-16-2013, 11:47 PM
neat to see this thread... my buddy and I just did his L200 on vectra B coilovers. like you pointed out, it's pretty easy. he's megaslammed too, it's gorgeous!

stevejr47
08-17-2013, 10:21 AM
neat to see this thread... my buddy and I just did his L200 on vectra B coilovers. like you pointed out, it's pretty easy. he's megaslammed too, it's gorgeous!

Pics?

bbarbulo
08-17-2013, 05:54 PM
i haven't got any but i'll ask him to pop in here

Frostman
08-26-2013, 03:58 AM
Pics?

Second that, I know everyone doesn't live on the interweb, but most probably wouldn't figure this out without some in depth research, that or just had some extra cash to blow to try it lol

Pics still waiting guys, had to order a bushing puller to get the bastards out... they are pressed in and I ordered an OPEL Vectra tool from the UK. Seems the OPEL parts are way cheaper than the North American market and all I can say is, as long as they work I don't give a rats ass what car they are for. I bought four MOOG bushings (80 bucks)for the price of one and I bought them through Rock Auto from the UK :)

slipstreamconversion
08-27-2013, 08:38 AM
Pics?

x 3

Jake
08-27-2013, 02:50 PM
My buddy told me to check out this thread since we put the Vectra B coilovers on my Saturn L200 series a couple months ago. When I first had it on it was alot lower but there were some minor rubbing that I started to get annoyed so I raised it up and flush it out just enough so that nothing is rubbing. I posted some pictures on the New Member forum. Check it out if you like

Natedogg
08-27-2013, 03:06 PM
Hey, what are you doing out of the kiddie pool already?

SC2Sick
08-27-2013, 03:07 PM
Hey, what are you doing out of the kiddie pool already?

He blackmailed me for putting up the pictures

dynonacht
08-27-2013, 03:07 PM
Lol he used blackmail.

Natedogg
08-27-2013, 03:11 PM
Is that what that was all about? I didn't think blackmail actually worked. Hmmm...

Frostman
08-27-2013, 03:20 PM
Two Coil over L's in the same province!? WTF... I thought I was the first :(

We need to meet up and some pictures :) Tease the americains we must!

Jake
08-27-2013, 10:25 PM
Sorry, I beat you to it but you're the first with a wagon. LOL


Two Coil over L's in the same province!? WTF... I thought I was the first :(

We need to meet up and some pictures :) Tease the americains we must!

Natedogg
08-27-2013, 10:54 PM
Tease all you want, at least our shit doesn't run on Maple syrup and hockey pucks.

slipstreamconversion
08-28-2013, 07:27 AM
That would be a gift if your shit did run on those materials

Frostman
10-15-2013, 10:18 PM
Sorry for the wait but here they are :) Oh, and before some stupid bitch backed up into the side of my car in a Walmart parking lot in fucking Florida in a SUV I had zero rub on this height. Maybe another 1-1.25" of drop left.

Before

http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac338/Frostman182/P29-07-12_06-27B-1.jpg (http://s913.photobucket.com/user/Frostman182/media/P29-07-12_06-27B-1.jpg.html)

After... Clear corners and amber turn signal discs removed from head light assembly.

http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac338/Frostman182/IMG_20131003_150418B.jpg (http://s913.photobucket.com/user/Frostman182/media/IMG_20131003_150418B.jpg.html)

http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac338/Frostman182/IMG_20131003_150436.jpg (http://s913.photobucket.com/user/Frostman182/media/IMG_20131003_150436.jpg.html)

Frostman
10-15-2013, 10:36 PM
Here are some randoms too :)

I went on a trip to Florida as mentioned and this was my all time favorite place :) Name it if you can!

http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac338/Frostman182/IMG_20131008_214933B.jpg (http://s913.photobucket.com/user/Frostman182/media/IMG_20131008_214933B.jpg.html)

http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac338/Frostman182/IMG_20130907_212504B.jpg (http://s913.photobucket.com/user/Frostman182/media/IMG_20130907_212504B.jpg.html)

What happens when your third flex pipe goes... They wanted 300 bucks to fix it... I went full red neck on this bitch! I'm still getting my header to work with the SAI system... And I had poly filled front and rear transmission mounts put it. Don't ask where I got them, they were a custom job done at a local shop that the company I work work supplies. They are nice :) And now I won't be busting anymore exhaust parts... I hope... This setup has lasted well over 5000 km LOL I'm very surprised hahaha The bottom of the flex had snapped due to a piss poor job welding it in there with someone who didn't know how to weld and maybe me being far to rough with shifting and clutch work...

http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac338/Frostman182/IMG_20130920_162725-1.jpg (http://s913.photobucket.com/user/Frostman182/media/IMG_20130920_162725-1.jpg.html)

http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac338/Frostman182/IMG_20130923_211450-1.jpg (http://s913.photobucket.com/user/Frostman182/media/IMG_20130923_211450-1.jpg.html)

Rear control arm bushings and don't worry new brakes went in about a week later... they were toast! So the rear end is brand new all around.

http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac338/Frostman182/IMG_20130901_154044.jpg (http://s913.photobucket.com/user/Frostman182/media/IMG_20130901_154044.jpg.html)

http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac338/Frostman182/IMG_20130901_154251.jpg (http://s913.photobucket.com/user/Frostman182/media/IMG_20130901_154251.jpg.html)

BTW control arm bushings suck to change and by suck I mean I never want to do it again. My shoulders were dead trying to pop them in and out with the limited space. And no, you can't and shouldn't use an impact. The bushings and tool were bought from Europe for an Opel Vectra B as well :) Rear lower adjustable control arms kick ass too!


Yah Canada! Rust :)

http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac338/Frostman182/IMG_20130901_183143.jpg (http://s913.photobucket.com/user/Frostman182/media/IMG_20130901_183143.jpg.html)

Natedogg
10-15-2013, 10:46 PM
Sonic. There are better fast food joints out there.

Frostman
10-15-2013, 10:50 PM
Oh LOL Interesting part of the trip down... for some reason or the other when I swapped over to the 2.4 intake, I had to plug a vacuum hole. Well idiot thought using hot glue was a grand idea... well after 1100KM of driving guess what happened...

http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac338/Frostman182/IMG_20131008_143040.jpg (http://s913.photobucket.com/user/Frostman182/media/IMG_20131008_143040.jpg.html)

Oh crap...

http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac338/Frostman182/IMG_20131008_143029.jpg (http://s913.photobucket.com/user/Frostman182/media/IMG_20131008_143029.jpg.html)

Well the idle was surging on deceleration and wouldn't go below 1000rpm. This happened the night before I found this and I thought I was going to have issues while I was in another country with just enough tools to get a job done. Great, my mind raced all night thinking the throttle body was gunked up or the IAC valve was messed up or that I had a vacuum leak... Well after a trip to Micheals arts and crafts store when I couldn't find a screw to jam in there...

http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac338/Frostman182/IMG_20131008_151522.jpg (http://s913.photobucket.com/user/Frostman182/media/IMG_20131008_151522.jpg.html)


A wooden peg was just enough to jam about 3\8 of an inch in there. And you know what? I damn thing is still in there are 1500KM! Don't worry I'll fix it :) But she ram amazing on US gas and even better once I got down south. Ripping nearly 650KM a tank when running cruise on the interstates. I spent 250USD for a trip down and back and a weeks worth of driving around. Just amazing how well she ran, until I hit the Carolinas in the mountains. Just not enough air up there and too much grade without having to run 4th most of the time. And I need to do rings soon. Used about a gallon of oil down and back. More so in the mountains with going down the hills. But still was very happy. She has 186000KM and didn't have a major flinch that wasn't induced by the idiot working on her LOL

Frostman
10-15-2013, 10:56 PM
Sonic. There are better fast food joints out there.

I love that joint! We don't have that type of chain up here and I thought it was cool! Like the old A and W back in the day. And I did like the stuff we had or maybe I was just so hungry I didn't care and it tasted good LOL Chic Fill A, Golden Coral a close seconds, followed up by Olive Garden. There were a few that we didn't get a chance to go to, but damn loved them all! Except checkers... that placed sucked. Went there after a tour at Daytona Speedway and it just was over cooked greasy crap.

stevejr47
10-16-2013, 05:52 AM
Niceeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Jake
10-27-2013, 06:16 PM
Moar low!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


sorry for the wait but here they are :) oh, and before some stupid bitch backed up into the side of my car in a walmart parking lot in fucking florida in a suv i had zero rub on this height. Maybe another 1-1.25" of drop left.

Before

http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac338/frostman182/p29-07-12_06-27b-1.jpg (http://s913.photobucket.com/user/frostman182/media/p29-07-12_06-27b-1.jpg.html)

after... Clear corners and amber turn signal discs removed from head light assembly.

http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac338/frostman182/img_20131003_150418b.jpg (http://s913.photobucket.com/user/frostman182/media/img_20131003_150418b.jpg.html)

http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac338/frostman182/img_20131003_150436.jpg (http://s913.photobucket.com/user/frostman182/media/img_20131003_150436.jpg.html)

punkboySL2
10-27-2013, 11:52 PM
pics aren't showing up

Frostman
10-29-2013, 07:07 AM
If I have time this weekend, I will do a full drop. I have to get winter tires on and an alingment done so I will see! :)

stevejr47
10-29-2013, 07:38 AM
Still waiting for mine to be shipped...

Frostman
10-30-2013, 09:18 AM
Mine took a bit and if i recall, I had to email them to make sure they even got my order. They will come :)

Which ones did you get :)

Natedogg
10-30-2013, 09:35 AM
Still waiting for mine to be shipped...

Wait, what? Still?

stevejr47
10-30-2013, 10:30 AM
The same ones you did Nick, I'll try emailing them to see what's up

stevejr47
11-11-2013, 05:19 PM
got them today!

Frostman
11-14-2013, 09:16 PM
Aren't they pwetty! :) It's kinda nice to get something major for a saturn that hasn't been modified and just plain fits! Now... get to it lol

And BTW, sorry for no drop pics... Florida ruined my summer tires and I'm passed the wear bars and drifted through an intersection... needless to say, winter tires on and she went up...

Next year, new rubber and full slam :) And hopefully a new hatch... and maybe a engine with a M62 attached to it :)

slipstreamconversion
02-21-2014, 10:34 AM
I am actively looking into coilovers (Don't mean to bump an old thread)

And I wanted to clear up, these aren't direct fit? You do a bit of modifying at the beginning. Also are these adjustable? I'm looking into a set located in the UK that are adjustable, but since these are used by you and Steve I would rather go with the proven coilovers than to test a set myself.

Frostman
04-01-2014, 02:29 AM
I am actively looking into coilovers (Don't mean to bump an old thread)

And I wanted to clear up, these aren't direct fit? You do a bit of modifying at the beginning. Also are these adjustable? I'm looking into a set located in the UK that are adjustable, but since these are used by you and Steve I would rather go with the proven coilovers than to test a set myself.

Ours are height adjustable and the fronts are slotted for chamber too. There are many options that will include dampening control and height. I didn't go looking too far into the expensive ones. The only thing that had to be modified off the top of my head is cutting the bearing out for the top hat on the fronts. And getting the rubber mounts for the front from a vectra.

And what are you using to lower your wagon now? It's sitting down pretty damn good! Edit: or did I just see that you photochopped it... LOL


STEVE!!! Update brother! You get yours on yet?

stevejr47
04-01-2014, 05:41 AM
STEVE!!! Update brother! You get yours on yet?

Not yet lol, I know I am dragging my ass, but soon since the weather seems to be heading in a warmer direction.

slipstreamconversion
04-01-2014, 07:13 AM
My avatar is photo shopped :P

Thanks for the info man!

bsweitzer99
04-01-2014, 07:46 AM
Join the photo chopped avatar club lol

punkboySL2
04-01-2014, 05:03 PM
just come to my damn house and we'll get it finished. I say 4 hours tops to get everything on, ride height dialed in and do a quick alignment. C'mon steve, it's time for coilover life.

stevejr47
04-01-2014, 05:15 PM
just come to my damn house and we'll get it finished. I say 4 hours tops to get everything on, ride height dialed in and do a quick alignment. C'mon steve, it's time for coilover life.

I am game, when?

Jake
04-11-2014, 02:54 AM
Goodbye winter, full drop in effect. LOL. I thought the past winter killed my coilovers but with a bit of patience and alot of PB Blaster, she is now sitting nice and low again .

slipstreamconversion
04-11-2014, 07:44 AM
#jealous

bsweitzer99
04-11-2014, 03:03 PM
Awesome. Pictures?

Jake
04-11-2014, 07:36 PM
Here she is after a quick wash earlier today

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Awesome. Pictures?

stevejr47
04-11-2014, 08:54 PM
i came

slipstreamconversion
04-11-2014, 09:05 PM
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ZombieSatty
04-11-2014, 09:14 PM
egad! IMO the L series has style above the Scars.

Frostman
05-09-2014, 09:32 PM
Did some work this week too... didn't go full drop, couldn't do it without screwing everything up, but it's damn close...



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About 1/2 inch left on the front and 1/4 inch on the rear to go... A bit too much, rears rub with the wider tires and the front tires scrub near full steering lock. Also, the car bounces too much with the springs let out so far. Ride was crap. Brought it up about to where I had it last year and it feel great, still a bit of rub on account of the new tires. But some wanted to see it down further, including me, and here it is!

Also running Zeta ZTR10 225/50 R16's and for a chinese tire, I am really impressed with how well they are handling, feeling and sounding. My dad even bought a set and probably won't have another tire on his car for the price/performance. Only thing we are waitng to see is how well they perform once they start to get wore down.


And it's not cleaned and waxed. There are a million fucking sea gals that live on the plant that I work in and shit all over our cars every day.... Plus these little flying bugs that sit out on the high way that love to get smashed all over the front bumper....

Jake
06-01-2014, 12:00 AM
OK.. so.... which one of you guys ( Frostman??) bought the adjustable lower control arms for the rear? how is that working out for you? I'm thinking of buying a pair. Just want to know how they are before i buy them. Thanks

slipstreamconversion
06-01-2014, 12:01 AM
I will be diving into coilovers when the insurance payment for my written off car goes through. I expect within one to two months.

Then I'll have some questions in here when installing them ;)

Low L Series crew!

Jake
06-01-2014, 12:18 AM
So jealous, I would love to own a manual L wagon. Been looking for a decent one in ontario for a while now but no luck

Frostman
06-08-2014, 07:59 PM
OK.. so.... which one of you guys ( Frostman??) bought the adjustable lower control arms for the rear? how is that working out for you? I'm thinking of buying a pair. Just want to know how they are before i buy them. Thanks

I bought them not knowing if I would need them to be honest... I know it sounds silly with how much they cost, but I didn't want to take the chance with no adjustable option for chamber in the back... well proper adjustment anyways. Some guys just notch the arms for some movement. Are they a nice ? Sure are, have I really used them to the full potential... well hard to say, the tire wear looked good on the measurements I took from the old arms to the new ones. With how much rubbing I seem to have with the new tires, even lifter up further than mentioned earlier, it still rubs a bit... but I hate this "stanced" googly eyed fuck alingment shit that's going on and don't want to have things getting to far out of whack.

They are doing the job and already have a bushing on the inner arm already which is nice. I strongly suggest to get the opel vectra outter {upper and lower} bushings and the removel/installation tool while you are under there. That I will guarantee is worth it. They can be found on the rockauto UK site.

slipstreamconversion
06-11-2014, 10:50 PM
Seems the insurance payment is way more than enough to get me some FK High Sport coilovers.

I'll be going for the V6 variant.

You mention the rears are just drop-in affairs.. The fronts need to have the top mount modified?

I noticed you said you bought extra bearings from rock auto, and I would just be using parts that came with the coilovers and existing parts from my car.

Just trying to do clear research into everything I need and do it over the weekend.

Jake
06-13-2014, 06:17 PM
New look?? lol Finally I don't have to keep taking off my front wheel when i want to hit the trails. Plus I kinda like the look of it

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anti-rice 01sl2
06-13-2014, 10:07 PM
I would so rock that. Nice work.

Who would've thought I'd ever say that about an L-series?

Jake
08-23-2014, 08:30 PM
Frostman, so my lower control arms just came in. Pretty straight forward or is there anything I should look out for before I start?

Jake
08-25-2014, 10:51 AM
F#$%ing GM . gotta drop to gas tank to get one bolt out for the control arms.

ZombieSatty
08-25-2014, 10:22 PM
LOL series indeed

Frostman
09-30-2014, 10:59 PM
F#$%ing GM . gotta drop to gas tank to get one bolt out for the control arms.

Screw that, when I did the bottom rear I bent the damn thing. There was no way I was going to drop the tank for that crap. The top one however probably does need too, but I didn't touch those ones. About the only original bushing in the back next to the trailing arm ones.


UPDATE! Had to pull the front coil overs off. Blew the left front shock. The winter we had must of down a number on it. Either that or lowering it further than I should have messed it up. So now i don't know what to do. I bought a house this year and since doing a head swap after bending some valves from a timing chain snap, the engine is now burning a bit more oil than I like. And to my knowledge the original clutch is still in there... with 205KM on it, I don't know to call it quits and run it until it doesn't want to or swap an engine put a clutch in and keep it rolling for a few more years.


I also tore the left rear sway bar bolt completely off of the car. That sway bar is a bit too heavy for how much spring travel i was allowing it to have I guess.

So, it wasn't a complete failure IMHO. I did something cool with it, but I know it wasn't meant to be doing what I had it doing. But I guess that's why us nuts are on this site, doing shit to cars that had no right to be doing lol But we fuckin' did it anyways lol

Frostman
09-30-2014, 11:03 PM
Seems the insurance payment is way more than enough to get me some FK High Sport coilovers.

I'll be going for the V6 variant.

You mention the rears are just drop-in affairs.. The fronts need to have the top mount modified?

I noticed you said you bought extra bearings from rock auto, and I would just be using parts that came with the coilovers and existing parts from my car.

Just trying to do clear research into everything I need and do it over the weekend.

Well you probably have done it already, but the only thing I did was get new rubber top bushings from the UK and cut out the original bearing from the old mounting hardware and re lubricated the bearing as it was in fine shape. This is drop in, very simple. You will have more issues getting the old bolts all loose and getting the rear suspnsion(cage} assembled, but with the threaded colloars and being able to keep the spring loose, it's not that bad.

george.seiberlich
09-09-2015, 02:28 AM
Here she is after a quick wash earlier today

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I like how them wheel are looking

george.seiberlich
05-31-2016, 06:32 PM
Here she is after a quick wash earlier today

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http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160531/e7569ddb1306668a975050c65926c839.jpg
What are the specs on them wheels? I just put coilovers on and trying to find wheels to put on

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Jake
08-04-2016, 09:11 PM
Sorry for the late reply, I havent really been on here for a while. Anyways to answer your questions. Those are Enkei Lusso 18x7.5 with 215 40 18 tires. I have 20mm spacers all around.

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