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    Which Springs for Me?

    First, a little factual data.

    Spring Rates:
    OEM Springs: ............................ 126 lb/in Front, 129 lb/in Rear
    H&R Race (1.4"F, 1.3"R):.............. 310 lb/in Front, 250 lb/in Rear
    H&R Sport (1.4"F, 1.3"R):............. 205 lb/in Front, 195 lb/in Rear
    Eibach Pro Kit (1.3"F, 1.1"R):........ 149 lb/in Front, 91-159 lb/in Rear
    Progress Group (1.8"):................. 200 lb/in Front, 170 lb/in Rear
    Progress Group (1.3"):................. 156 lb/in Front, 150 lb/in Rear
    Sprint (2.0"):............................. 200 lb/in Front, 140 lb/in Rear
    Sprint Extreme(2.5"): .................. 200 lb/in Front, 140 lb/in Rear
    Suspension Techniques (1.4"):...... 157 lb/in Front, 109-155 lb/in Rear


    Struts:
    KYB GR-2 front: 30% stiffer than stock
    KYB GR-2 rear: same as stock
    ST front:*
    ST rear:*

    *No one knows any real specifics on the ST struts as far as dampening goes. But the general consensus is that they are stiffer than KYB GR-2s.

    Ok, so there's the factual information you need for making your choice. Now comes the subjective part. This is my own personal belief, but I'm fairly certain the vast majority of the community would concur with the following. Before I start, here's some quick notes to keep in mind. If you notice, there are several springs that will not be included in this; B&G, Canuck, Intrax, etc etc etc. As far as I'm concerned, the springs listed above are the only real ways to go. Also, what about AMR, Agility, and Carrera? If you are reading this, it is assumed you are looking for coil SPRINGS, not coil-overs. If you are looking for coil-overs or trying to decide between coil-overs and coil springs, this isn't the place for you. On with the show.

    Best Performance:
    1. H&R Race
    2. H&R Sport
    3. Progress
    4. Sprint 2.0
    5. Eibach
    6. Sprint Extreme

    Most Drop:
    1. Sprint Extreme
    2. Sprint 2.0
    3. Progress
    4. Eibach
    5. H&R Sport
    6. H&R Race

    Most Comfortable:
    1. Eibach
    2. Progress
    3. Sprint 2.0
    4. H&R Sport
    5. Sprint Extreme
    6. H&R Race


    Which one for me?

    AutoX/Racer - I'm just looking for the best possible performance and do not care for comfort or drop, Performance is most important. H&R Sport is where you want to be. NOTE: H&R Race is the best "performing spring" out there. However, due to the limited availability of properly dampened struts, H&R Race is out of the question at this point in time, scratch that off your list.

    Daily Driver - I drive a lot, the roads are bad, I just want something lower than stock and turns better too, but comfort is most important. Eibach is where you want to be.

    Show Car - I don't care how it performs, I don't care how comfortable, I just want it LOW. Sprint Extreme is where you want to be.

    Perfectionist - I want it all. I want it low, I want it to turn, and I don't want spleen damage. Progress is where you want to be. Without a doubt Progress is the most "well-rounded" spring there is, pun intended <img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/wink.gif" alt="" title="Wink" />


    Additional Info:

    H&R Race - While being the best "performing spring" out there, H&R Race is out of the question at this point in time due to the limited availability of properly dampened struts.

    H&R Sport - Handles very well. Ride is a little harsh and leaves that "jacked up" look

    Eibach - Decent drop. Very comfortable, hardly any worse than stock. Half-decent performer, but towards the bottom of the barrel on that front.

    Sprint Extreme - Mad drop. Axles will shudder from the angle they find themselves on. Very little suspension travel which means bottoming out on any major bump or crack in the road. Also pretty bouncy on the road. Handling is firmer than stock, but the very little travel can cause abrupt changes in "feel" mid-corner.

    Sprint 2.0 - Nice drop, not to harsh on the ride, performs pretty good to boot. This is my second choice for "Most Well-Rounded"

    Progress - Very nice drop, Very good handling. Rides smooth but "sporty", and definitely not harsh or bouncy. Absolute best overall spring IMO. Unfortunately no longer made and extremely rare and hard to find. If you ever have the chance, definitely scoop these up.


    That's about as much information as I can offer. If you guys would like to contribute to this thread add your comments. I will be keeping this thread clean so if your contribution to this thread goes missing, that's why. I would appreciate it if you guys could comment on the information at hand though. IE, you think this spring handles better than that spring etc etc etc. Also, I'd like to get some pictures going for examples of the drop to be had with each. If you have a pic of something, post it in this format:
    Year Model: Spring
    Tire Size

    2001 SC2: Progress
    235/40R17

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    Re: Which Springs for Me?

    2001 SC2: Sprint Extreme
    215/45R17









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    Re: Which Springs for Me?

    2001 SC2: Eibach
    235/40R17







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    Re: Which Springs for Me?

    1993 SW2: Intrax
    215/40x17 Falken FK-452

    215/40x17 Falken FK-452


    1993 SW2: H&R Sport
    215/40x17 Falken FK-452

    205/50x15 Falken Azenis RT-615
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    Re: Which Springs for Me?

    1993 SC2: H&R Sport
    215/40x17 Falken FK-452

    215/40x17 Falken FK-452
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    Re: Which Springs for Me?

    1997 SC2: H&R Sport
    205/50-15

    1997 SC2: H&R Sport
    205/50-16


    Best Performance:
    1. H&R Race
    2. H&R Sport
    3. Progress
    4. Eibach
    5. Stock
    6. Sprint 2.0
    7. Sprint Extreme

    I haven't raced on all of those, so its still opinion. Take it for what it's worth.

    Having driven extensively on Sprint Extreme and stock back to back. I can say without a doubt I would take Sprint's performance over stock on the street. Having driven on Eibach for awhile now, I would take Sprint 2.0 performance over Eibach. I think it's a toss up between Eibach and Sprint Extreme when it comes to performance. Eibach has a lot of body roll and it *may* very well be faster on the track, but I know for sure I would be much less confident going into a turn with Eibach vs. Sprint Extreme.

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    Re: Which Springs for Me?

    1999 SL2: Sprint 2.0
    205/55/15 (Sorry)

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    1999 SL2: H&R Sport / KYB GR2's
    205/50/16
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    1999 SL2: H&R Sport / KYB GR2's
    205/50/16

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    Re: Which Springs for Me?

    1999 SL2: H&R Sport
    215/40/17's


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    Re: Which Springs for Me?

    1996 SL2: Eibach
    205/55/15s



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    Re: Which Springs for Me?

    1996 SL2: Eibach prokit
    -215/40R17(Falken Ziex 512's)



    -with 215/45R16 Falken Azenis



    -with 185/65R15's




    H&R sports -1 coil front and rear
    -215/45R16 Falken Azenis

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    2001 SC2: Sprint 2.0
    215/40R17

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    2000 SL1: Sprint 2.0
    205/50R15

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    2000 SL2: Sprint Extreme 2.5
    205/50zr16

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    Re: Which Springs for Me?

    How much of an improvement in handling is there going from stock springs to H&R sport? I'm trying to decide what to do with my SC2, I know it will definitely need new struts and shocks someday soon (KYB's) but I don't know if I should stick with my stock springs or go with the H&Rs. Will I really notice that much of a difference?
    PlasticPower8500: "I'm growing increasingly attached to my dead reliable bone stock 1st gen SC2... Feels like I'm in a Lexus when I'm driving it lol. Granted I have never been inside a lexus before."

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    Re: Which Springs for Me?

    Absolutely. Beyond tires and maybe an alignment, H&R Sports are the next best thing you can do IMO. The difference will be night and day. Beware that it won't ride quite so comfy, but if performance is you game, H&R Sport is where you want to be.

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    Re: Which Springs for Me?

    Beyond tires and a larger rear sway bar you meant.

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    Re: Which Springs for Me?

    well, I wrote alignment because some ppl's alignment is so fubar ..... wouldn't matter what you do its still going to be shit. And I agree the swaybar was a big plus for my car, but honestly, I would take springs over the rear bar if it came down to it.

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    Re: Which Springs for Me?

    You know what sucks? Getting an alignment and having it still fucked up cause you didn't bother to check it until after.
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