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    Re: Stock Spark Map Downloaded (2nd Revision, pg1)

    Parsed the latest datalogs. Lots of highway cruising, we have a very solid map from idle to the 3000 RPM area. The higher RPM area was also adjusted a bit to match the previous logs.

    Thanks for those logs man!

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    Re: Stock Spark Map Downloaded (2nd Revision, pg1)

    You bet. So what other RPMs do you need, anything above 3k?

    I'll be home all next week but without an XP laptop so I don't think I can get any logs while home, unless I stumble upon a laptop.
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    Re: Stock Spark Map Downloaded (2nd Revision, pg1)

    Yeah anything above 3k would be sweet. We have some info from previous datalogs but seems like the new ones just end at 3k. Which is cool, because that's where most of us spend our time.
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    Re: Stock Spark Map Downloaded (2nd Revision, pg1)

    Here's what my current spark map looks like. This probably won't work for most people, being how the engine in my car is low compression with head work:



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    Re: Stock Spark Map Downloaded (2nd Revision, pg1)

    Quote Originally Posted by PlasticPower8500
    Yeah anything above 3k would be sweet. We have some info from previous datalogs but seems like the new ones just end at 3k. Which is cool, because that's where most of us spend our time.
    Which makes sense because it was a highway trip at 70 MPH. I'll go out and just push the gears out and log some of that info. Probably will have that after next week.
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    Re: Stock Spark Map Downloaded (2nd Revision, pg1)

    Don't go WOT every time though, vary the high rpms a bit for best logging
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    Re: Stock Spark Map Downloaded (2nd Revision, pg1)

    or ease up through the rpms slowly over and over.

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    Re: Stock Spark Map Downloaded (2nd Revision, pg1)

    Two steps ahead of you guys, been doing that so the logging can actually get the info through those RPMs. If I floor it, the computer doesn't log, or logs intermittently, the values as it sears past those RPMs.

    Don't worry, whatever you guys need I'll get. [img]{SMILIES_PATH}/smile.gif[/img]
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    Re: Stock Spark Map Downloaded (2nd Revision, pg1)

    Just to update a bit. Me and my buddy will be throwing our money together to buy the whole package, software and full hardware, in the next few months. Which means it will run on my Vista laptop and I can safely drive and log and not worry about it crashing. In that case I can drive around town and highways all day and collect data just as if you guys were trying to drive about your boosted cars.

    I'll let you know when we have secured the package. [img]{SMILIES_PATH}/smile.gif[/img]
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    Re: Stock Spark Map Downloaded (2nd Revision, pg1)

    Is this stock spark for OBDII coils or what?

    I read the first post, but I wasn't sure if this was for using the MS2 Extra code to decode the stock crank sensor and possibly use that to control the OBDII coils.
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    Re: Stock Spark Map Downloaded (2nd Revision, pg1)

    no... this is just to get the stock spark map into MS. you still have to convert to an OBD1 ignition module.


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    Re: Stock Spark Map Downloaded (2nd Revision, pg1)

    Yeah, this is "software" for the MS only. It will work with any ignition setup though. Just make sure to check your timing with a timing light and make sure it corresponds to the actual values in the map. It's a stock map from an n/a saturn with bolt-ons.
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    Re: Stock Spark Map Downloaded (2nd Revision, pg1)

    Don't think I forgot about this project!

    I wanted to tell everyone the good news. As mentioned and promised earlier I just ordered the new PCMSCAN package from Palmer Performance. Me and a buddy chipped in and we bought the hardware that will run any 1996+ car and the full software package. Now I can run it on my laptop with Vista and do much much more data logging. Meaning you'll probably see a few more maps from me that cover a higher range since I no longer will have the memory error I was getting with the old bugged software.

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    Re: Stock Spark Map Downloaded (2nd Revision, pg1)

    Awesome!

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    Re: Stock Spark Map Downloaded (2nd Revision, pg1)

    Cool beans! Let me know whenever you get another fatty log [img]{SMILIES_PATH}/biggrin.gif[/img]
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    Re: Stock Spark Map Downloaded (2nd Revision, pg1)

    From what I read, you guys are using a stock OBD2 car to tune for an MS with OBD1 ICM. I don't know if anyone remembers, but I've been disassembling the pcm rom for a while now. I have most of the stock spark tables and correction tables somewhat figured out, would anyone be interested in me posting them?

    They're set up a lot different than a single table, there's three main tables, RPM vs MAP, IAT vs MAP(Closed throttle only), and CTS vs MAP all add into the main timing value before corrections are applied.

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    Re: Stock Spark Map Downloaded (2nd Revision, pg1)

    Post it.
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    Re: Stock Spark Map Downloaded (2nd Revision, pg1)

    no shit! I recall you doing this for a while now. I wasn't sure on the progress though. post away!

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    Re: Stock Spark Map Downloaded (2nd Revision, pg1)

    Please post it!
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    Re: Stock Spark Map Downloaded (2nd Revision, pg1)

    Alright, it will take me some time, but I'll go into detail how each table is used.

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