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    Hein's shift cables

    Bolt in kit includes:
    2 cables with spherical rod ends
    shifter cable mounting bracket
    machined transmission adapter
    all hardware

    Based on Midwest Controls 40 Series High Efficiency Cables

    Installation requires removal of old cables, shifter and shift tower on transmission.
    It will be necessary to seal the hole where the cables exit the body with expanding foam or silicon.

    More info in this thread: http://www.sixthsphere.com/forum/sho...Cable-Ends-fix

    Nov 19, 2012 price: $175 shipped

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    Trans end with adapter bushing on lower cable






    Shifter end with nuts and strap welded to bracket to hold cables.

    Eye bolt keeps cable end in alignment similar to the plastic window
    on the stock setup. It was a last minute tweak so I'm looking at
    more elegant and robust solution for this.
    Edit: See bracket design found later in this thread and in the finished kit.



    The shifter used in this setup was cut down by 3" The gimbal cage
    was tightened up by wrapping it with a mylar shim. Flopper arm
    channel was snugged up with a bolt & nut. (still moves but less slop)
    No arms were extended.



    Below are the nuts that need to be welded to the shifter bracket.
    This is a mock up picture. I took the cables out before welding.
    I ran a strap across the top to strengthen it. I am considering a
    bolt on bracket depending on what people want to DIY.
    Edit: bolt in bracket is now part of the kit. No welding required.



    This is Required:
    Edit: Actually its NOT required. Cables ended up having enough stroke.
    Extra hole drilled in transmission lever to reduce the needed stroke
    to within the range of the cable. Effectively a "short shifter" Resulting
    travel at the top of the knob is 3" fore-aft and 2 5/8 side-to-side.
    (again; shifter has been cut down 3")

    Last edited by hein; 11-20-2012 at 12:07 AM.
    current build: 95 wagon, completed build: 95 sc1 to DOHC

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    I'm down for a set.

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    Im in
    I got nothing for that




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    I'm in too!

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    Ya doing the ends just is not enough.. Count me in too.
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    Can't wait for these!
    '94 SL2 Manual (Parts stack growing), '06 Ion 2.4, '01 Honda F4i somewhere.

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    How much does the different hole at the shift tower shorten the shift? i'm probably in for a set, but trying to think through all the work they'll require, and which shifter I'll use.
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    i want a set
    94 sl1a- why the hell did I buy this POS scraped
    99 sl2m- blown motor stripped down and scraped
    95 sl1m- DOHC swap done mp3 with mp2 5th gear
    95 sl2m- Turbo turd 7 psi and still running after 3000 miles
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    Quote Originally Posted by PurdueGuy View Post
    How much does the different hole at the shift tower shorten the shift?
    It reduces the stroke in the cable by about 1/4" so probably about twice that or a little more up at the knob. I'm guessing but probably pretty close. I'll take some travel measurements at the knob today and post the results later.

    The sided to side travel is unchanged and can be shortened in the traditional manner by extending the output arm of the L shaped lever on the shifter. I wouldn't use a shifter with an extended arm below the gimble pivot but it probably would work fine. The stroke at the knob might end up a little 'too' short unless that is your preference.

    These cables and a couple other mods which I will share tightens things up nicely. I have less than .25" dead band fore/aft at the knob before I 'feel' the transmission input lever move.
    Last edited by hein; 03-12-2012 at 09:34 AM.
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    count me in.
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    Hmm saves all the ordering and fits right in with my current shopwork..... damn Hein, is on point. Count me in.
    Fixing a Saturn can be like reaching into a bag of scorpions and hoping for the tootsie roll.

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    I am beginning to consider a bolt in bracket to hold the cables on the shifter end to eliminate the need for welding. Can a Moderator turn this thread into a poll with items nuts DIY welded onto shifter and drill holes and bolt a bracket to shifter as choices?

    The shifter was cut down by 3". Travel at the top of the knob is 3" fore-aft and 2 5/8" side-to-side

    Added some notes to the O.P.
    Last edited by hein; 03-13-2012 at 05:37 PM.
    current build: 95 wagon, completed build: 95 sc1 to DOHC

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    im guessing it was a good idea for the list now lol. Money is waiting to be spent on these

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    did you ever figure a better way to seal the firewall?

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    I'd pay extra for bolt-in. I don't do welding (yet), so it'd cost me extra to pay someone to do it anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by allen57 View Post
    did you ever figure a better way to seal the firewall?
    The expanding foam worked really well. I trimmed it down after it cured and then sprayed on some undercoat. I suppose I could make a couple of plastic plates to sandwich on either side of the firewall. No promises on that and you would still have to use some sealant.

    Quote Originally Posted by PurdueGuy View Post
    I'd pay extra for bolt-in. I don't do welding (yet), so it'd cost me extra to pay someone to do it anyway.
    I payed $20 to have it welded after I clamped the nuts as shown above. My welder guy cut the short piece of bar and put that on for me as well. Then I took it home and painted it.

    Should I add your name to the list, regardless?
    Last edited by hein; 03-13-2012 at 09:47 PM.
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    I'd rather use a bolt in peice instead of weld in. I'll hit the poll once I'm off tapatapa.
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    Also, I see I am only down for one set, I will take two.
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    Yeah, put me on the list. I can put this in my box with the rear hub spacers that are also still waiting to go on the car. lol
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    Welding isn't an issue for me. If you want to offer both options whatever works.

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