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    Quote Originally Posted by 99michael View Post
    That's kinda what I'm thinkin too. But hell. More ponies is always funner. Lol.
    I knew what I was gettin into, and knew the risks. I have two other cars I can use to flag with if I need to. But really, there won't be much down time for it. Already got both out of the motors out. Switch a few things tomorrow an put er in. Shouldn't miss any jobs I don't think.


    That was actually one of the easiest steps I thought. Literally just grabbed the socket, extension, ratchet, an presto. Right out. Although I am doin this on my lift. So that always makes things easier.




    Got the pan off now that I got it out. Looks to be the #3 rod bearing that was the cause for lockin up. Kinda weird, I woulda thought a rod bearing woulda still turned over. The other bearings didn't look wonderful either.






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    There is nothing else that you can see that locked up the motor? I mean the #3 bearing is bad but it is in one piece. I would have seen chunks in the oil pan.
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    Might I suggest we move discussion of the broken escort wagon to it's own thread?

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    Escort Wagon... I guess that's true. lol
    99michael's build thread is pretty good. I'm sure all or part of this swap will be covered there. Might be a better to have it all there as Zombie suggests as it is a bit more in depth than the typical "what did you do to your car today" posts.
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    I haven't put it up on the lift yet and forgot how much of a pita it is on the ground

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    Everyone bitches about that bolt, I just don't understand. It's a bolt, easy to get to with the right tools; a deepwell and extension. If you think that's tough, I present to you a thermostat housing on an ECOtec, boosted or otherwise. Yea it's a bit cumbersome untill you figure out the right way to do it, then it's not hard at all.

    My guess is most of the irritation cones from having to do a starter swap in whatever random parking lot yours happened to die in.

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    Until you have replaced a starter on a chevette, I don't want to hear complaints about replacing a starter. lol

    I've not had to replace one on an S-Series but it appears to be cake by comparison.

    Recommended methods for a Chevette starter is to
    A) remove the master cylinder then wiggle the starter out through the space that opens between the firewall, intake, and wheel well
    B) remove the intake which really opens things up but is a PITA on it's own with all the hard to get to bolts, fuel, vacuum, and coolant hoses and draining the coolant. (I never did this method)
    C) (not recommended by the factory but a common method) unbolt the driver side motor mount and pull the engine so it angles toward the passenger side. Then wiggle the starter down the driver's side of the motor, under the intake, over the wheel well, around the distributer ignition coil, and fuel pump.

    A and C also requires the combination of several swivels and several 6-12" extensions so you can get to the top bolt after snaking the extensions between parts of the intake.

    Try doing that at 1AM in a parking lot without the right tools in freezing rain.
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    Wait, are you talking about the top side bolt on the S Series starter? Its not difficult at all to remove. The big issue I have with it is because you install it completely blind, its easy to cross-thread. I almost did this last time I replaced my starter

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    Yes the top bolt. It's a pita for my stock 02 SC2. The car is on jack stands and I'm t too lazy to push it to the lift. Guess I will bitch about it more

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    Bought a long handle ratchet and removed the intake manifold bracket. The starter has been replaced.

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    I usually put a 6 and a 3 inch extension together and it usually fits pretty well yes also going in blind and it sucks but isn't that how 50% of mechanic work is

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    Now I'm no engineer. But this shouldn't be....




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    Ghetto fixed it. With a 5/16 bolt and gasket. It's got too many miles on the clock for me to care. But it's fixed and no longer idles at 3k




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    Put my wagon up for sale what a sad day. Got it running perfectly figured out my ignition and ac issue. The damn ignition fuse was no good.

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    I always put a stud in the block for the top starter bolt on any of my engines. Way fuckin easier.

    As far as dick starters to replace. I present a Big Block Mopar in a b-body with full length headers. (It's even fuckin worse in an a-body)

    Unbolt collector
    Unbolt header
    Unbolt steering gear
    Untension driverside torsion bar
    Remove torsion bar
    Remove back two spark plugs
    Unbolt driverside engine mount
    Jack engine up
    Remove header
    Unbolt starter

    Optional. Sawsall a 16" section out of number 5 primary of the miserable fucking header, and have an exhaust shop weld in two flanges so the primary can be remove so it doesn't encapsulate the starter after installation.

    Re-instillation is reverse
    Re-adjust ride height
    Re-align front suspension

    Total time:8 hours and a towbill because you ain't doin that shit in a parking lot.
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    Thought about what I will do with my '92 SL2 and then saw this. I felt the same way...

    https://instagram.com/p/BLB_wyTgc02/


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    Here is a screenshot in case you don't use Instagram ...





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    I'll be doing this to my car tomorrow


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    Quote Originally Posted by importsdontlikeme View Post


    I'll be doing this to my car tomorrow


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    Not Paying Attention...

    It wasn't yesterday -- more like 2 weeks ago -- but I've been away from the site.

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    Did rear pads and rotors.
    Pulled a front tire to check the pads and get a good look at the rotor. Both fine.
    Wheel back on, lug nuts hand tight.
    Lowered the lift.
    Got in a discussion w the old dudes hanging out in my buddy's home garage
    Put the wheel center cap back on and tightened by hand.

    My Adderall that day was not enough for me to pay enough attention to remember to torque down the lug nuts on the ground.
    So I drove around on the highway that way for 2 days with a growing unfamiliar vibration.
    Pulled off the center cap.
    Sure enough, lug nuts loose. One came off attached to the center cap.

    Stupidest thing I've ever done working on a car in 32 years.

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    On my Astra...
    About a month ago I realized my reverse lights didn't work and that they likely hadn't worked since I bought the car.
    I used an OPCOM to run through tests and verified the lights DO work so it wasn't a fuse, bad bulbs, or wiring anywhere between the ECU and lights.

    Couldn't find anything about the reverse switch in my Haynes manual. Posted on the SaturnFans Astra forum about it and was told there was a connection that I should check near the shifter in the console. I was already 99% sure that was wrong but pulled the console anyway and verified 100% all the connections that should be plugged are and there is zero electronic connections to the shifter anywhere inside of the firewall. Posted back on that thread my findings and someone else told me where it was, included a picture of the switch, and a link off to a page explaining how to check it.

    Last night, I pulled the plug off the sensor and was going to short the connection to see if the lights would come on. If they did, then the problem was with the switch itself. Instead, I saw one of the contacts was shoved way up inside the plug. I took the plug apart, put the contact where it is supposed to be, put the plug back together, and plugged it in. The lights work!



    Also with the tail lights...
    When I bought the car one of the tail lights was cracked. I found a pair on ebay that were already tinted with tint film and looked great otherwise. Verified the part number in the listing matched what my car needed and I bought them for 140 shipped. I got them and went to put them on last weekend... they don't fit. Looking at the part number on the actual lights, they don't match the listing. Guy is saying I have to pay return shipping to get my money back. Nope...

    I said I would accept $70 and resell them myself to get the rest back (plus maybe some profit). He said he'd do that, but I see no refund yet. I'll be contacting ebay soon if I have to.
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