Close

User Tag List

Page 1 of 29 1234511 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 20 of 564
  1. #1
    siris's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Posts
    5,270
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    27 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)

    Subaru / Raceland coilovers

    After quite a bit of questions about this, there are a few options for Satbaru coilovers from Raceland:
    Standard coilovers:
    http://raceland.com/coilovers/subaru...coilovers.html
    Front – 450 lbs/inch
    Rear – 280 lbs/inch
    Ultimo coilovers:
    http://raceland.com/coilovers/subaru...coilovers.html
    Front – 505 lbs/inch
    Rear – 315 lbs/inch
    Adjustable Damping coilovers:
    http://raceland.com/coilovers/subaru...2002-2007.html
    Front – 505 lbs/inch
    Rear – 315 lbs/inch


    If you order from Raceland those are the options to pick from.

    If you order from any other vendor you need to order 2002-2007 Wrx coilovers, GD body style.

    Modifications are as follow:

    Lower spindle hole needs to be slotted .25" (1/4 of an inch) up.

    The front tophats need to be redrilled and cut, look at the pictures for reference.

    The rear tophats fit surprisingly well, the holes in the body need to be slotted outwards and it will bolt up.


    Hmm, what could this be?


    Oh, I think I know!



    I was right!!!




    Good looking welds



    Threads are machined nice too.



    Bolts had rattled loose during shipping


    Rear top mount



    The pillow ball mounts.




    Stock front comparison, the raceland all the way extended still ends up with a 2" drop compared to stock.


    Rear comparison



    The top hat will require some modification. I am torn between getting a new top mounting plate made, or trying to use my stock rubber bushed tophats.


    Front and rear, as extended as I would feel comfortable to run.










    Top plate mods for the front.


    Rear Raceland top plate vs. Stock tophat




    Rear Strut tower modifications, I used the Raceland Top plate for my install, I had to loosen the seat belt re-tractor to tighten the bolt.



    Lower knuckle mount modifications. I had to slot the lower hole 1/4" up.





    Finished product, The rear has exactly 3/4" worth of threads sticking out of the bottom of the lower knuckle mount. Front is flush with the bottom of the mount.
    The front is too high, I have run into an issue with the front camber. I need to move the upper strut mount farther inboard because I cannot run enough camber to tuck the tire enough for it not to eat my fender without the rim/tire hitting the coilover.

    Overall impressions:
    Thus far, I have not re-aligned the car yet, so I have no pushed it hard. I have purposefully hit potholes and manhole covers to see how bad it is, these coilovers negotiate bumps surprisingly well. Overall ride is rather firm, but that can be expected from 500lb springs in the front and 350lb springs in the rear.

    Hindsight:
    I would have questioned Raceland about softer springs.
    I would have gotten a top plate for the front coilovers made for me, instead of modifying the Raceland plate.

    Regrets:
    None, they will lay the frame of the car on the pavement statically.
    The quality is decent for what I've payed, and I understand these are not 1k+ coilovers.

    Advice:
    Finding a nearly bolt in set of coilovers for our cars is monumental. EVERYONE in our community will benefit from this in some way, Coilover options for the GD WRX's are very broad, and available at all price points.
    I recommend these for anyone looking for cheap low's.
    I would recommend anyone who plans to Auto-x or track their cars to look into a more expensive setup with adjustable dampers.
    I would look into getting a top plate for your front coilover's machined locally. The rears work pretty well.
    Last edited by siris; 07-28-2015 at 12:59 AM.
    72 Charger: pissed me off, on jackstands.
    95 SW1m: Dohc swap. DD. I can haz boost?

  2. #2
    siris's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Posts
    5,270
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    27 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    http://sixthsphere.com/showthread.ph...69#post1475169

    I have posted on my favorite Saturn enthusiast forum, I will get you some measurements of our stock struts, I believe if we can work something out there will be quite a few Saturn people interested in your products. Feel free to make an account on sixthsphere if you think we might be able to do a buy in or a one off run of a few sets.
    I really appreciate your time and interest in helping me. Thank you.



    This was my reply.
    72 Charger: pissed me off, on jackstands.
    95 SW1m: Dohc swap. DD. I can haz boost?

  3. #3
    lilcraigford's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Portland, ME
    Posts
    2,895
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    3 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Hasn't Jon (Jon2001sc2) also been working with them on something?
    '94 SL2: The Detail Junky (Will it ever run? Does it even exist?)
    '95 SW2: The Daily Junky 3 (388k Champion)
    '95 SL2: The Daily Junky 5 (aka Snow Junky 2)

    The Detail Junky Build

    "Saturn people like a different kind of Escargot: Redefining the association between Saturns and Snails."

    For Sale Thread (Current Items: 9-Bolt Head, 9-Bolt Timing Cover, 5-Bolt Timing Cover)
    Wanted Thread (None)

  4. #4
    bsweitzer99's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2012
    Location
    Akron, NY
    Posts
    2,751
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    7 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    The mk2/3 front coilovers are very close fit, just need a better top mount. Not sure about the rear.
    99' SL2- stick swapped, static, slammed, DD, forever in progress.

  5. #5
    Get off my lawn.
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    Winston Salem, NC
    Posts
    8,354
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    20 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by lilcraigford View Post
    Hasn't Jon (Jon2001sc2) also been working with them on something?
    Jon has cobbled together what should be the closest-to-bolt-on parts kit from BC racing... IIRC WRX parts are part of the equation.

  6. #6
    siris's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Posts
    5,270
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    27 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    I'm kinda thinking as long as the coilover body is short enough to allow adequate suspension drop and travel regardless of having to use or not use the top camber plates on their subie kits I am going to buy a set shortly after Christmas.
    72 Charger: pissed me off, on jackstands.
    95 SW1m: Dohc swap. DD. I can haz boost?

  7. #7
    bsweitzer99's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2012
    Location
    Akron, NY
    Posts
    2,751
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    7 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by siris View Post
    I'm kinda thinking as long as the coilover body is short enough to allow adequate suspension drop and travel regardless of having to use or not use the top camber plates on their subie kits I am going to buy a set shortly after Christmas.
    Please
    99' SL2- stick swapped, static, slammed, DD, forever in progress.

  8. #8
    Shake a dead chicken at it! THUD's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Location
    Orlando, florida
    Posts
    1,144
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Depending on price I might grab some
    2002 sl2 auto

  9. #9
    siris's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Posts
    5,270
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    27 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    469 with nice camber plates. The front plates would require quite a bit of modification to the strut tower of the car.
    72 Charger: pissed me off, on jackstands.
    95 SW1m: Dohc swap. DD. I can haz boost?

  10. #10
    Get off my lawn.
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    Winston Salem, NC
    Posts
    8,354
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    20 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Honestly, I'd go the other way. We just need to measure our strut tower and make a replacement top plate. The top plate on the racelands is just a single flat piece of laser-cut/water-jetted steel. Replacing them should be very cheap. Probably <$20 each in any sort of group buy.

  11. #11
    6S Resident Hasselhoff. alexofnazareth's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2010
    Location
    Ann Arbor, MI
    Posts
    4,930
    Post Thanks / Like
    Blog Entries
    1
    Mentioned
    6 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    If these still offer a stock ride height, id be game. There isnt a set of AMRs for sale and I need something stiffer when hauling shit behind me.
    Quote Originally Posted by Donnie View Post
    I see a failboat, steaming full speed on an ocean of failsauce into a barrier reef of lol.
    Quote Originally Posted by BC. Livewire View Post
    if you hate seeing money going down the drane

    than do not turbo your car !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Sixthsphere: Home of newbs, cunts, and Shane Jackson.

  12. #12
    Jon2001sc2's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Location
    Daytona Beach
    Posts
    1,667
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    2 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Nope I haven't worked with race land at all, we went to BC after wasting half a season waiting on amr to never do anything for us. We do use wrx parts in the kit but the only parts are the top hats. They are a little larger bolt spacing than the Saturn's we were going to use e30 ones but they are smaller than stock and I'd rather have the bolt holes moved out than in. Also the fronts require you to redrill the pattern entirely so none of the strut tower bars will work without modification and sadly some of the ones that have been produced will not work at all. The rear bars also require modification but I think every version I've seen can be adapted.
    The BC's are right around 1000-1100 if I remember right, I need to talk to our vendor when I get home next month to confirm.
    Jonathan
    Just a guy with a thing for tubeframes and motorswaps...
    Saturns, I have them, too many of them actually

  13. #13
    siris's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Posts
    5,270
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    27 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Ok guys, pulled a spare front strut out of the weeds, I will need someone to save me from having to pull my daily driver apart for rear strut measurements.
    Here are the pictors of the front strut, if someone could match my measurements and post pics that would be awesome.
    IMG_20131213_122048.jpg
    IMG_20131213_122137.jpg
    IMG_20131213_122234.jpg
    IMG_20131213_122448.jpg
    IMG_20131213_122611.jpg
    IMG_20131213_122701.jpg
    IMG_20131213_122816.jpg
    72 Charger: pissed me off, on jackstands.
    95 SW1m: Dohc swap. DD. I can haz boost?

  14. #14
    siris's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Posts
    5,270
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    27 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Also the specs for the Normal WRX Coilovers:
    http://www.racelandus.com/coilovers/...coilovers.html
    Front – 450 lbs/inch
    Rear – 280 lbs/inch
    They also offer a performance oriented version:
    http://www.racelandus.com/coilovers/...oilovers.html]
    Front – 505 lbs/inch
    Rear – 315 lbs/inch
    I think the normal set would be almost too stiff for a daily, the ultimo coilovers however would be tits for you guys tracking your cars.
    72 Charger: pissed me off, on jackstands.
    95 SW1m: Dohc swap. DD. I can haz boost?

  15. #15
    Ubiquitous Administrator Donnie's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 1992
    Location
    Chicago, IL / Tempe, AZ.
    Posts
    8,994
    Post Thanks / Like
    Blog Entries
    1
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I wouldn't put these on a track car. In fact, I wouldn't daily them either.

    Hard park? Yes. Maybe then, I'd rock a set.

    Ethanol and Boost: My Anti-Drugs.

    2016 Chevrolet Colorado LT - HNNNNGG.
    1999 Ford Dangah Rangah XLT - Junk haulin' junker-slut.
    1998 Saturn SC2 - Garbage. Pure, unadulterated, unapologetic, garbage.
    Gone: 2004 POSRT4 - 372/425 @ 20psi, "Super safe tune" --- 4xx/4xx @ 26psi, "BAMF Tune"
    Next: 1990 Supra "LOLNOJZ" - LSx, 4L80E, Megasquirt, whole lot of Ethanol, whole lot of snail...

  16. #16
    Ubiquitous Administrator Donnie's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 1992
    Location
    Chicago, IL / Tempe, AZ.
    Posts
    8,994
    Post Thanks / Like
    Blog Entries
    1
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    The amount of attention you're putting into this is appreciated though. Keep up the good work.

    Ethanol and Boost: My Anti-Drugs.

    2016 Chevrolet Colorado LT - HNNNNGG.
    1999 Ford Dangah Rangah XLT - Junk haulin' junker-slut.
    1998 Saturn SC2 - Garbage. Pure, unadulterated, unapologetic, garbage.
    Gone: 2004 POSRT4 - 372/425 @ 20psi, "Super safe tune" --- 4xx/4xx @ 26psi, "BAMF Tune"
    Next: 1990 Supra "LOLNOJZ" - LSx, 4L80E, Megasquirt, whole lot of Ethanol, whole lot of snail...

  17. #17
    siris's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Posts
    5,270
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    27 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    A lot of the Subaru guys are happy with the quality of them, matter of fact I can't really find any bad reviews of them.
    72 Charger: pissed me off, on jackstands.
    95 SW1m: Dohc swap. DD. I can haz boost?

  18. #18
    Ubiquitous Administrator Donnie's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 1992
    Location
    Chicago, IL / Tempe, AZ.
    Posts
    8,994
    Post Thanks / Like
    Blog Entries
    1
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Not trying to rain on any parades, but- They're cheaply made, non-adjustable and ride like a horses ass. I've actually handled them and ridden in two cars with them. I was not impressed. This is a Saturn forum though, so I may as well be saying this to a brick... Hahaha.

    Sucks too, I was somewhat paying attention to them when they first started blowing up.

    Ethanol and Boost: My Anti-Drugs.

    2016 Chevrolet Colorado LT - HNNNNGG.
    1999 Ford Dangah Rangah XLT - Junk haulin' junker-slut.
    1998 Saturn SC2 - Garbage. Pure, unadulterated, unapologetic, garbage.
    Gone: 2004 POSRT4 - 372/425 @ 20psi, "Super safe tune" --- 4xx/4xx @ 26psi, "BAMF Tune"
    Next: 1990 Supra "LOLNOJZ" - LSx, 4L80E, Megasquirt, whole lot of Ethanol, whole lot of snail...

  19. #19
    siris's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Posts
    5,270
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    27 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Regardless, if we can utilize wrx coilovers in some fashion close to bolt in it will open up a virtual shit ton of options for us compared to the 2 off the shelf options we have. That is if you can get amr to build you a set
    72 Charger: pissed me off, on jackstands.
    95 SW1m: Dohc swap. DD. I can haz boost?

  20. #20
    Ubiquitous Administrator Donnie's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 1992
    Location
    Chicago, IL / Tempe, AZ.
    Posts
    8,994
    Post Thanks / Like
    Blog Entries
    1
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I'd honestly support Jon's talks with BC. They're a good group to deal with and make decent products.

    Ethanol and Boost: My Anti-Drugs.

    2016 Chevrolet Colorado LT - HNNNNGG.
    1999 Ford Dangah Rangah XLT - Junk haulin' junker-slut.
    1998 Saturn SC2 - Garbage. Pure, unadulterated, unapologetic, garbage.
    Gone: 2004 POSRT4 - 372/425 @ 20psi, "Super safe tune" --- 4xx/4xx @ 26psi, "BAMF Tune"
    Next: 1990 Supra "LOLNOJZ" - LSx, 4L80E, Megasquirt, whole lot of Ethanol, whole lot of snail...

Page 1 of 29 1234511 ... LastLast

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •