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    MS1 V3.0 Gude Turbo Cams MSQ?(Fuel And Spark)

    So i doubt anyone even uses MS1 anymore but is there anyone with a saved tune that starts well? Once i get everything warmed up (Holding the throttle at 10ADC and 2000rpm) my throttle response is great and my fuel is pretty well tuned in. Darn thing does not start for anything. Starts for a second and dies, warm or cold does not seem to matter. When it dies it does sound like my timing is too advanced. Just a baseline MSQ would help for MS1 so i can see where i might have screwed up. I have been sifting through MS3 MSQ's and they are like a foreign language to me.

    Thanks in advance for any help.
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    http://sixthsphere.com/storage2/view...tst6hncc1h.msq

    MS1 V 2.2. Might help



    I grabbed some screens that might help
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    You sir are a life saver. I thank you very much.
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    Tried all your post (before i started this) and the one that says its a replacement in the ~10psi is a broken link. This is what worked instead of the given link. Just an FYI

    http://sixthsphere.com/storage2/view...aotrrxucit.msq
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    Updated my thread, thanks for pointing that out
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    No problem at all. I have been scouring 6S for Maps and MSQ's so i started at the Tune Library. Happy to help.
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    Just curious you went from stock cams to the gudes?


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    Well i did a little more than that. I have a fresh rebuild installed with IAC and EGR removed along with the stock air pump removed. Also ripped the autotragic out and installed an MP3 with MP2 5th gear. The stock computer did not like running that at all.

    Rebuild includes Scat rods .020 over bore Gude Turbo Cams and head studs (roller rocker head). i have put 150 miles on the engine. All in all i am tired of dealing with the stock computer. I had already planned to boost again as soon as the weather gets better. So i installed one of the Megasquirt/Harness sets i had laying around. it has been almost 10 years since i boosted a turd so i am a little out of practice on the MS setup. Not to mention that was 2 laptops ago and all of my 15psi tunes are MIA(Wish i had them now).

    I Know the clutch is going to be junk as soon as i start boosting. i need to check with SouthBendClutch to see if anything has improved since i ripped their last clutch apart. Option 2 would be run 8-10psi and throw the 11.5:1CR 383 in the Camaro and finish it without going all out on the saturn this time.

    Edit: After that whole rant i realized the other MS is out of the Wagon that was running 10PSI. It may have a good tune in the MS itself. I am going to have to check it out tonight . I also have spare chips laying around i could check. Some very very old......
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    I had you in my head at a glance as @siris, who is also doing an MS1 setup

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    Oh I see. Nope sorry, just me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sentein View Post
    No problem at all. I have been scouring 6S for Maps and MSQ's so i started at the Tune Library. Happy to help.
    I really wish the tune library was more dense in tunes... pleas post your up once you get it running ok.
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    Ms1 brothers unite!
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    Okay you guys are probably not going to believe this. I kept both of the old tuning laptop bases around. I threw them in a trash bag to go to the dump about 2 weeks ago. Today i thought about the HDDs in these being good. the mother board was bad on one and the screen went bad on the other. Well the trash bag was full of computer cases and not much else so i had not grabbed it out of the garage yet to throw it out. Just ripped the only remaining HDD out of the two and threw it on a USB Adapter i have. I found a total of 26 MSQs. These are in all different stages of the tuning process. I have mine, some of jackals and some of tristans in those tunes I think there may also be a few of DasPirates N/A and boosted tunes in there. None of them are labeled as DasPirates but i do have a .VEX file labeled as joe1 which would have to be Das's. These are so old i get errors due to no setting tables on any of them. Nothing newer than 06-20-2008 all done on megatune and MegaLogViewer as far as i can tell They Load up and look good to me. I will be loading a few of these up and testing them tomorrow on my car. How many should i post and should i post the other members MSQs?

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    Nevermind i Updated Tuner Studio and none of them work now. Yay
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    I have some from Bill too, I doubt he minds

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    So if i may ask how old are your tunes from bill? If they are newer than 2008 could i check one of them out?
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    https://www.dropbox.com/sh/esv8qd6g7...ORy2NdLIa?dl=0

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    That is awsome! You have cody and gage's tunes too.
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    I guess? @Jackal

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